In a community (churches/ religious communities) that would rather hide the sins and down right monstrous behavior of some of its members, this is a brave podcast that not only sheds light on one woman’s experiences being trafficked in the church but it talks about how difficult it is to get anyone to believe you in that community also. Thank you for talking about these hard things and exposing those who steal innocence. I appreciate the episodes that also help parents see signs of something not being right!

Hi thank you so much for sharing your story. I was wondering if you ever thought about collaborating with Tiffany Reese who has the Something Was Wrong podcast. I just thought it would be a great way to boost information sharing about familial sex trafficking. You are heroes in what you are doing

Always believe the victim. Standing with you Kait

These two ladies are lying and suppressing the truth to gain a business and a name. They are hurting good people in order to spread evil. It’s only a documentary and therefore should not be believed. Maybe some of her stories are correct but certainly not all. Be watchful. Be vigilant.

Thank you for sharing your story…you are changing lives because the truth matters!

Um , I couldn’t listen anymore for waiting for the next Um. Good that I live on the first floor ! Too bad, because the content is important.

I found myself jumping all over the place to find the episodes that would tell me the actual experience/story. Poorly executed all around. The ex therapist who is now a supportive best friend feels so ick on her end and she should know why. Bleh, it’s exhausting. I give up. Kait, I hope you get justice and I commend sharing your story the best way you know how. It would be beneficial to maybe re-tell your story, when you’re ready, by your self without the friend jumping in so much. (Of course, only when YOU feel ready) 🩷

Great service bringing everything to the light!

Such a fabricated and made up story. Anyone who believes this is so gullible

As a western New Yorker and high school teacher in the area, this story is so important. I love the interaction between Kait and Laurie. I love the authenticity. I have learned so much from this and my eyes will no longer be closed to this awful crime. I have shared this podcast with friends and family and am hopeful your audience will continue to grow.

I’m so thankful for the bravery and grace of Kate and the support of Laura (leaving out the ethical concerns of a therapist and client doing a podcast together and the potential for a reexploitive nature.) I’ve listened to multiple episodes that had tidbits of information from her experience, but were not focused. As a survivor of familial and other forms of trafficking myself who works with other survivors and trains, consults, and does work with others full-time, I feel there were several things I related to but also several broad spectrums statements said that were true to Kates experience but not the overall general truth presented as. Misinformation can be harmful when it as presented as a global reality when it comes to familial trafficking when it may still happen but be the rarity. Be cautioned that someone’s experience makes them an expert on their experience, but not on trafficking or familial trafficking in general. I applaud this team for their work and efforts, and would be open to conversation regarding specific comments that may not apply or be true when partnering with the majority of familial survivors.

The strength I hear in Kait’s voice as she tells of her life is incredibly honest, gut wrenching, but also hopeful. I’m so impressed with Kait’s strength, and Lori is such a wonderful balance and support person. I’ve learned so much about family trafficking, something I had no idea existed. I stand with you both!

Kait - Thank you for sharing your story. Before this podcast, I had never even heard of familial trafficking. You are an amazing person. I believe you and I stand with you! ❤️ Laurie - Thank you for finally being the professional that helped Kait! I’m a teacher and listening to this podcast has helped me to understand so much about abuse. I have shared your story with so many people.

This podcast has me hanging on every word of Kait’s experience. I’m amazed that someone can tolerate such horrific abuse and still go on to live her life not only that but also call out these monsters

This podcast is such a great listen. Kait’s story breaks my heart and I commend her and stand with her telling her truth. All the best ❤️❤️❤️

Thank you for bravely sharing your story so we can learn from it. As an educator I cannot fathom how the private school failed so horribly to protect a child.

I can’t say I like or love this podcast because I am sorry that it even has to exist. But I can say that I am thankful for the difficult work you are doing. There is a price to pay when someone tells their story. Thank you for being willing to pay the price.

Could not get past all the ‘ums’ ‘ums’ ‘ums’ which is entirely avoidable with editing software now. Grating.

I really wish Kate wouldn’t interrupt so much. It’s a bit distracting and irritating.

I had to give up. I have no idea what’s going on.

I learned a lot from this podcast about supporting survivors of abuse and how to compassionately approach these types of situations. The podcast itself was meandering… You have to listen to a LOT of episodes before fully understanding the topic, the intent of the podcast, and who are the major players. The info could probably be summarized in a 1/4 of the time. It’s worth a listen, but I skipped through repeated information.

The episode of the good shepherd is not accurate. The first one to plead his cause seems right, Until the other comes and examines him. Proverbs 18:17

How did they get you when you were at a private school

I’m trying to listen to an episode and have the volume on my phone and google hub up to the max but can barely hear them speaking. There are several episodes like this…why??

If u don’t follow the tick tock or instaface or whatever then u really don’t know what she is even alleged happened. It’s sad. We don’t know what to believe. I just moved to grand island a year or so ago and have kids that play in the football program at one of the churches she speaks of and it’s frustrating to keep hearing about abusers still there but no names. Just not a well done podcast. Sorry. And the fact that some people seem to think the cohost is your therapist ( I don’t know if she is or not ) makes it seem like this is being done for money. Along with the fact it’s dozens of episodes without much in the way of allegations. Edit. …… after writing this and some things on Facebook I was approached online by a relative or kait and then by another relative. One ( female ) just said it was all true and that I was the problem for asking for names. The other. A male. Said kait has consistently cried abuse every where she went and claims that nobody can be trusted. I mean she literally thinks the fbi can’t be trusted. They are in on it. Please. The grand island police wouldn’t even put up with a chomo in their ranks.

Kait is so brave for sharing this story and raising awareness about familial trafficking.

You should be so proud of yourselves, we are all supporting you two!!! Thank you for being so brave and helping to keep our children safe 🥹♥️🙏🏼

You are amazing!!! Thank you for sharing your life. You’re bravery has great Ben a lot of people the courage to step forward, to double check our faith and not blindly walk into churches and just accept that “I sin too, so who am I to judge” the people who choose to believe you will not let this rest, we are more diligent and aware. Thank you, you are an inspiration!

Such a looooooooooooonnnnng introduction. I had to skip to the next episode but its not straight forward. I wish you could just tell your story then tell us about how it felt to you!

Thank You so very much for sharing your story !! And blowing the lid off of a huge disgusting problem that has been going on for a very long time !!! I love you guys so much . My love and prayers for you guys !!! Don’t stop get them !!

An in depth story about a brave survivor of childhood sexual assault and familial trafficking- something I didn’t even know existed. I hope all people who work in a setting with children will listen and be the helpers children need to get out of these situations before they age out.

Unfortunately I can’t listen to this. It is all sorts of chaotic without any timeline, context clues, or seemingly purpose. I wanted to hear from a firsthand survivor and respect her journey, but this just isn’t feasible. The episodes are all over the place without any sort of structure. Best of luck to you in the future, but I can’t do it anymore.

As a childhood SA survivor, no where near what you went through, I can’t speak enough to your bravery. It’s astounding and I don’t know you, but I’m very proud of you and Lori also. I heard you once say you’re not political, so I’m unsure if you’re aware of how pervasive it is in elite circles to do these things to children. It is a sick world we live in. I’m sure your outreach will be felt further than Buffalo, and will help many others. May God keep you safe and strong. 🥰

I just finished all your podcasts. I’m a parent of two young girls and a teacher in a big city. I learned so much about the importance of being trauma informed and how to protect our kids. Thank you for being so brave and for your perseverance. I hope that you find healing in your work and can just dust off all that negative energy the abusers and their supporters throw your way. Your work is x1000 more important than anything those churches have done. Keep your chin up and know your supporters are everywhere ❤️.

I listened to a few episodes thinking it’d get better but they were all over the place and too many distractions.

I am so glad that you are so brave to bring light to this as I am sure it was difficult. It is so good for people to be aware that just because someone claims to be religious doesn’t mean they are a good person. I am so upset by what you have had to go through and it breaks my heart. I am here to support you. I hope this helps being accountability to those who harmed and enabled those who harmed you and others. I also hope this helps others who may be In similar situations to find help and those around them to be more aware of what to look for. I am in Utah where there are also people hiding behind religion while not being a safe person and I hope your voice can help bring change and awareness everywhere.

Kait, First off, I am so sorry that you are being forced to relive these experiences. Growing up on GI, not much older than you, it makes me sick to know that this was/is happening. Your bravery and dedication to disrupting the status quote and holding these monsters accountable, is nothing short of remarkable. You’ve really inspired me to start speaking up for myself about my own trauma and boundaries. I, and so many others, stand with you and want to help, however we can, to make sure no one else has to suffer. Laurie, I promise the brain science stuff really is interesting and very, very helpful.. Thank you both so much

I’m giving this 5 stars for her bravery. Please tell your story in chronological order.the organization is not good. It’s very confusing I don’t even know what her story is on like episode 7. It would be better if she would have told her story and then unpack other specifics/topics helping others signs etc.

Kait’s story needs to be heard. She is the voice of the myriad of children who have been trafficked and have no voice. Her bravery is simply amazing and in her stepping out and sharing, she is paving the way for the safety of future children and ensuring justice for those abused. All you have to do is listen and you hear the truth in her voice. You can hear the stress in her sighing after discussing extremely difficult topics. It hits you in the heart. Every person who listens to this podcast owes her a deep debt of gratitude for speaking out. Every mother should be on board. Every father should be protecting their children and demanding justice. It’s time for a change. Thank you, Kait.

I am on episode 18 & I can’t stop listening to Kait’s story. Also, I want to comment on some of the 1 star ratings: I was a little confused at first as this is different than other podcasts I have listened to. It became apparent to me a few episodes in that Kait is still processing some of this (totally ok with me). She does jump around sometimes, but, this is a horrific story, she can recall it in whatever order she wants. I’m so happy that Kait has Laurie in her corner and we are able to tune into this journey as she so *authentically* shares it with the world. Regarding Kaits giggling - I’m guessing the people who commented on it are super uneducated or very young & have lived a charmed life. Laughter is a coping mechanism for people who have endured trauma(s). Someone else commented on no follow-up to FBI or police reports and YES, she & Laurie did address this. Again I am guessing these people are very young or haven’t watched much REAL crime stories! Check out the pharmacist on Netflix or the stalker series: some of these investigations take a decade to decades. This isn’t an episode of SVU where they catch the bad guys in 1 episode. I am sickened by the immense “organization” that has gone into the trafficking of this young woman and also all of the people involved. I 100% believe Kait. I’m 40 years old and this is one of the best podcasts I have been told about.

Thank you Pastor Darrin for standing up to the predators and those who ignore and enable them. I understand the concept of grace but I also understand the concept of accountability, responsibility and true repentance. While these people need help they should not be in a situation where they have easy access to continue the abuse. God bless you all for bringing this awful issue to light! May the Lord continue to bless you and your ministry.

This is Kait’s story and it is wild. Kait is so brave and I have loved seeing her come out of her shell throughout the episodes as she takes us through her story. Kait holds back language when Laurie is on meaning when Laurie is on she tries not to curse. Laurie is Kait’s therapist and I understand why she would be there. However, Laurie has a clear motive to keep religion and church looking good instead of allowing the possible natural deconstruction of Kait from that which was a huge part of her abuse. To be clear Laurie denounces the churches involved in Kait’s story but she is still very much a religion pusher, as proven by many episodes of exclusive religious content. So if religious trauma is a concern for you (as it is for me) and you’ve already rightfully deconstructed, Laurie can be triggering. The Sheppard episode is a big religious push for the entire episode as are others that Kait isn’t even on at all, is Laurie allowing church leaders to continue pushing church agenda. That part is the only bad thing I have to say about this podcast.

I’m giving this five stars because I believe Kate and I stand by survivors. I’m hoping getting your ratings up the chart will help you get the attention of someone who can help you tell your very important story. Because this podcast isn’t doing it. You owe no one details of the abuse, of course. But there is no timeline, no linear narrative, nothing. I hope the therapist is not Kate’s therapist because that would likely present ethics issues - especially in terms of any revenue generated from the story. I don’t think she is Kate’s therapist. But what I do think is that she negatively impacts Kate’s ability to tell her story and I wish she wasn’t a co-host - it’s your story. Not hers. No part of it is hers. I’m glad she listened and did what she was trained to do. I’m glad she’s your support through this. I hope she stays there. But I wish she’d prop you up from the shadows. You’re a very brave woman. I hope your story gets the professional amplifier it deserves. You shouldn’t have to have it professionally amplified - I agree - but your bravery and the gravity of the accusations absolutely deserve the protections of professional journalists and storytellers.

Be strong! Keep telling your story. We hear you and we believe you!!!

As someone who has experienced childhood trauma, this podcast was very relatable and made me feel more at ease with where I am at life and that I am not alone in my extreme ability to compartmentalize events in my life! Kait, you are a beautiful soul and I wish you all the happiness in the world!

I feel for Kait as she clearly has been through trauma. I don't deny or discredit her accusation. I believe whatever her story is to be true (I say whatever her story is because this podcast is very all over the place). I will have to say I was someone raised in church & w/ religion however I was lucky & fortunate enough to learn from the age of high school that most organized religions are just god cults, The Chapel being one of them. There is a lot of talk from the ladies about processes & procedures about situations like this & how there really aren't any (of value or substance) within the chapel. I'II just remind everyone of the separation of church & state. Church's get away with sexual abuse & misconduct, financial fraud and even murder at times. This podcast seems more of current & former chapel members calling out the church on procedures instead of what the original story is. I'm not saying a survivor should have to share every detail but this podcast lacks any detail or explanation of the original topic. She calls everyone her abusers, says this has been going on for decades but doesn't explain how this ever even started. Also, if there is an S&M child abuse "group" I'm pretty sure the FBI would be involved. Police & FBI are mentioned but with no follow up or conclusion. All in all the podcast is very boring & extremely triggering for someone who doesn't follow organized religion. The most triggering is the "God" episode where everything is done by God, good or bad he's always there for you... yuk. Let's reinforce harming people as "gods will" just gross.

My family did not attend church at Whitehaven, but we were involved with a homeschool group held there for years. I can’t believe we hadn’t heard anything about any of this until last week. My husband and I believe you and stand behind you! I will be sharing on social media and donating/purchasing your merch. To Kait, Laurie, Christiana, and your families, thank you for your incredible bravery.

Episodes are all over the place. It’s a chaotic presentation. Not sure of the circumstances surrounding the story and the gaps in it make this podcast awkward to listen to. Maybe it is because it is an ongoing investigation, not sure. If this helps a survivor of abuse deal with the trauma of that abuse, then I’m glad she did it. I just wish it wasn’t so vague and we could relate to what was being said from the position of the victim. I can’t imagine anyone not wanting to sympathize.

I have listened to every true crime podcast ever made and none have gutted me the way Kates story has. More wicked than any Hollywood bad guy. The utter failure of a community and level of depravity and gaslighting that will actually make your blood boil. all in the name of Jesus. Follow and stand behind Kate.

I saw your TikTok and was so interested. I just don’t understand why all the laughing and giggling. I know you have to see it in a different way but if you are telling a story then you need to be serious about the story. I’m listening and I still don’t know the story , you talk and talk and don’t say anything. I just can’t, not good at all. Maybe just stick to TikTok.