After Trump

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What will be Donald Trump's lasting effects on American politics and the presidency?


Trump operated the presidency in ways that defied widely held assumptions about how a president might use and abuse the powers of the office. His mercurial personality, pathological mendacity, shamelessness, open disrespect for law and norms, vicious attacks on officials and institutions, intermingling of public and private interest, and indifference to facts did enormous damage to the great office that he assumed on January 20, 2017. And his words and actions exposed the presidency’s vulnerability to dangerous excesses of authority and dangerous weaknesses in accountability. Trump was not the first president to raise these dangers, obviously, but he did so unlike any of his predecessors.


Reconstructing the presidency will require much more than the right attitude by the president and senior executive branch officials. It will also require a comprehensive examination of the many fissures in the structure of the office that a future president might choose to exploit in a fashion similar to Trump.


Over six episodes, Host Virginia Heffernan, outlines with Lawfare's Jack Goldsmith & former White House Counsel Bob Bauer outline their proposal of reform to our government in the fallout of the Trump Administration.


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  • a-piece
    War mongers
    The W bush years and the Obama years created great amounts of death and destruction, under trump it was less.. yeah trump is a mob boss. The 2 previous presidents are evil men creating war period.
  • Wild Buzz
    Obama 2.0
    I can hardly wait for the podcast about Dementia Joe, how the election was stolen, and the disastrous pull out from Afghanistan and the affects of wide open borders. President Trump will be vindicated.
  • SaleeJo
    Tears Again
    I just listened to Long Shadow. It brought back all the shock of that day and then some. I look forward to the next installment. Well done.
  • Gamebird7379
    Pure Hypocrisy
    This a complete repeat of the news for the past 4 years. Lies? Remember, when you point the finger that there are 3 more pointing back at you. If you are a narrow minded person that believes everything CNN and The View put out, this is for you. I would like to see what y’all can put out after this current faux administration’s 4 years of disillusionment is over.
  • coyotechick
    Glad you are back!
    I will listen to the brilliant and witty Virginia Heffernan do anything!
  • bjohns383
    Joshua Johnson of NPR’s 1A
    As Joshua Johnson of NPR’s 1A, I firmly believe it is vital for us as a country to stand behind our one true president, Donald J. Trump.
  • hytvbn
    After Trump
    Very very informative podcast and beautifully produced, with good voices (including Trump Tweets) as speakers and good clips to illustrate points. Thank you!
  • Jod Pody
    Great stuff!
    I just love Virginia Heffernan’s voice and spirited intelligence! It’s reassuring to hear Bauer and Goldsmith’s answers to the trashing that 45 found he could do to our country. Gotta say, hearing the trump snake voice again makes my skin crawl!!! Thanks for the series. I’m excited to read the book. I hope Virginia comes out with another podcast!!!
  • 53j2
    Remove the immunity while in office: your First Episode 1
    Until the “immunity while in office” is removed, all the great laws you create will never work. Who’ll enforce it? The AG who is beholden to POTUS? What will you do if he doesn’t comply with the law each year? Hold every violation over until the end of presidency? What for? He can pardon himself.. or quit right after losing his election and have his VP become the POTUS long enough to pardon him. UNTIL “IMMUNITY WHILE IN OFFICE” RULE IS REMOVED, YOU HAVE NOTHING.
  • ProvSpa
    Yay for After Trump! In more than one way.
    Ok - I am happy to live in the after trump world. I am also THRILLED that Virginia Heffernan is the host of this show. I was so afraid I’d lmiss the next show she did. Although this show isn’t as free flowing as Trumpcast it is great, timely, and ohhhh soooo necessary. Congrats on the new show!!
  • it's just Gigi
    Propaganda
    Is this the best you liberals can come up with? Laughable and pathetic
  • Kyliwac
    Excellent
    This is a really good podcast. Virginia Heffernen is such a good orator. Smart, articulate. I never miss an episode 🌟🌟🌟✨🌟
  • Immature Adult Learner
    Top-notch
    Good to hear from VH
  • Thaddeus Stevens
    Justice albeit slowly is coming
    Excellent accounting of Trumps many manifest high crimes and misdemeanors. Add some rape proceedings. Roger Stone gets charged with something related to the Proud Dopes, Russian Mob Felix ‘We’re all going to jail’ Sater charges coming soon. Trump and the R’s be looking all good in time for midterms.
  • Rogpen
    Great podcast
    I really enjoy this podcast. It helps to fill in the blanks of the Trump administration. Very informative.
  • won't send with one star
    Can’t stand T’s voice
    Quality authors and podcast but I can’t stand hearing T’s voice. Wish that wasn’t included. We know how despicable he is.
  • gorillamama8
    Can you please tone it down?
    I’m very interested in the subject matter and I think the substance speaks for itself but I feel the narrator is over-reading the text. A more conversational tone would be appreciated.
  • 😎🍷
    Very good
    Such a well organized podcast. Reminds me of Trump, Inc which I loved and miss. But I understand taking the monster out of the limelight. Can’t wait to listen to all the episodes and then one day the monster will follow in his father’s footsteps
  • RobSub
    Good substitute for the book
    If you can’t get a chance to read the book After Trump, this is a good way to go. Done by Lawfare, this is a high quality podcast with in depth thoughts and discussions. Please don’t take those negative comments as any kind serious criticism; they don’t point to anything specific or detailed.’
  • DLM631
    Welcome back!
    Sure have missed Virginia, and she’s back with her easy to listen to and informative style. Good information and ideas.
  • ViewerOne
    Important Perspective
    Granular and methodical analysis proposing forward-thinking, simple solutions to securing our government. Fascinating cases and pragmatic logic. Loved it!
  • jacKAY10118
    Laughable
    This is the biggest bunch of nothing I’ve ever listened to in my life.
  • Jjackss1234321
    Trump 2024
    Just more leftist propaganda.
  • thalus of marcanchia
    After Trump podcast
    Extremely informative, even to an average person such as myself. For 4 years we saw the president abuse the office for personal gain but nothing was ever brought up about how to stop these disgusting practices. Finally we get well thought out ideas on how to prevent much of this in the future. Eagerly looking forward to future episodes of your podcast. THANK YOU
  • Diane We
    Now is the time to look back and right the wrongs. This podcast is an important start.
    An informative and important podcast. This is what we need to hear so that we can be assured as citizens that our President is not using his office for personal gain.
  • Pkassebaum
    Virginia’s wit is sharp and saturated with schadenfreude
    Essential listening for anyone who wants to fix what led to Trump in the first place.
  • Clark_bord
    Lawfare and Goat Rodeo deliver
    Reliable sources, entertaining storytelling, important journalism. Thanks LF
  • MyDad66
    Same Greatness
    If you listened to Trumpcast this is the natural continuation. Same great host and knowledgeable, insightful guests discussing how we get out of the hole that was dug for four years.
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